Of course I want to see us survive and live with the natural beauty the world has,… “In Perfect Harmony…” But this can only be accomplished if it is dealt with truth – on all sides, and NOT with the ambitions of those with political agendas.

Many thanks for the extended forecast. There are many things that indicate massive changes on the horizon. The list is plentiful.

Thinning of the ozone layer and higher than normal solar activity resulting in higher cosmic radiation reaching the surface, not to mention the hole in the ozone layer over the poles.
Higher than normal Aurora Borealis activity signaling legendary changes.
Religious texts foretelling the end of time (as we know it).
Proof of planetary pole shifts that have brought cataclysmic circumstances.
Antarctica has massive coal reserves – it was a steamy jungle at one time
Planet X,
Black holes,
Aztec Calendar end date,
Prophets foretelling events to come,
… and so on.

What if one or more of these come true in your lifetime? What will you do? Are you going to prepare? Prepare for what? How? We are talking about events that may be so insurmountable that the planet itself may cease to exist.

Do you know why politicians don’t bring up the possibility of these things? See, if you are part of the political machine, you bring up issues like terrorism and global warming as a subject that implies we can actually do something about it. Politicians don’t like to discuss events that could erase everything because they cannot create any perception that they could actually do something to prevent it or to stop it. they don’t like answering questions about things that are just ‘too big’.

So it comes down to you. Are you going to really get upset over something that is completely beyond your control? I’m not.

I like the fact that you enjoy getting the mind to work more and more by presenting questions about important subjects. For if you were to try to get people to exercise their mind with inquiries into more mundane and nearly pointless matters, (The entertainment industry has this covered all too well.) there would probably be less emotion, less passionate discussion. And so I would like to indulge you in some answers to questions that you presented in the outset of your thoughtful response.

First I would like to mention that I am not remotely offended by your honest follow up questions. Since they are a logical next step in such an important discussion as to how the reversal of the rapidly depleting earth’s resources and increasing amounts of pollution may be effected. And if a person should be so bold as to make statements such as the ones that you have responded to here, that person in my opinion and no doubt many others would expect such a one to back up their thoughts with facts or known truths and take on the challenge of arguing for their beliefs.

In keeping with the original premise set out in my first posting (Aug. 19th) I must base my thoughts on a known pattern of complete inability by mankind to solve such problems in the past. This past record includes thousands of years, and many many people, men and woman’s no doubt sincere attempt to solve like sized issues. Granted with the relatively recent industrialization of world, the problem can be considered, in comparison to much older ones, to be fairly unique. Nevertheless, this problem has one important similarity with other big issues, the over coming of an impossible hurdle. Now here is an important truth with which there is no real arguing with: There are billions of people on this earth right now. (truth) For global pollution alone to end and be reversed it would require 100% willful compliance on the part of every human on this planet. (truth) So one might honestly ask, ‘What are the chances that billions of people would individually and completely comply with any kind of mandate that could be set out to end pollution?’ And further, the kind of compliance that would be needed to make such an effort stick and not loose ground latter would be that which comes from the figurative heart, the place inside each one of us where any WANT or desire comes from.

The insurmountable challenge then, would be to get every human on this planet to WANT to do things in a way that no longer pollutes. Can this be done? Yes! But not by any of our efforts. Therefore, if you could think of a person that would posses such an amazing influence so as to get every person on this earth to WANT to live in a non-polluting way (including the ones who have become wealthy and influential along with any who may be benefactors of their wealth, namely elements of government), and I am aware of none, then that person could definitively answer how this wrong of pollution may be made right.

Any amount of planning on my part or that of any other human, then, would be wasted time unless the complete compliance of every person on planet earth was to take place.

When it comes to population control, nations differ as to how they view family planning. In developing countries many have the view that the more family members the better. While those in developed nations seem to deliberately curtail child birthing as a means to control family expenses. Getting every family to comply to some kind of family planning with limits in view would be impossible. So, not only would the masses need to be in harmony with this kind of thinking, but the various governments over those people would also have to come to an agreement on this issue. Judging by the last 6000 years or so the record on this looks very bleak.

So, when taking such all inclusive facts into consideration, thus broadening our view so as to see the bigger picture, one can get a more accurate view of the immensity of the problems many would like to tackle and solve. These thoughts are not mentioned for the sake of being negative.
But this bigger picture shows that there are many sincere people who are willing try and tackle this issue with either suggestions, and or actions as to their own personal efforts through sorting glass from plastic, repairing mufflers ect.. But these special people ( the environmentally conscientious sort) whether governments or individuals, are left powerless to see it through.

But what about this idea of trying to lead the way through disconnecting ourselves from our material goods and ‘cushy’ way of life? Well, our cushy way of living may not be as good as we think it is and perhaps we could very well be happier without it. We can easily deduce this since the first human pair enjoyed life in a literal paradise. In fact the name of that place gives us insight as to what kind of place it was. ‘Eden’ means ‘paradise of pleasure’. In this garden like home all of their needs were cared for. They lacked nothing. Every aspect of life for the first human parents was peaceful, enjoyable, free from harmful stress, and naturally mentally stimulating. All of this being enjoyed under ideal weather conditions while perfect food in abundance was available to them. Adam and Eve enjoyed all these things with literally perfect minds and bodies. The fact is this place and time really existed. This is not a dreamed up utopia, but a real part of human history.

Although thousands of years have passed, we as their descendants, still appreciate nature as a place of retreat from our not so natural lives, where its calming effects and simplicity can rejuvenate our souls. Its no wonder. This appreciation was hard wired into us from the beginning.

Its important to note here that it was not man who conceived of a paradise and then placed himself in it. The Creator did! He wanted to share existence with others and so began creating intelligent life, both seen and unseen. He is the most knowledgeable, loving and powerful personage in existence. The inventor of any product would know best how to fix his creation if it was damaged by others right? So we can expect the creator to fully restore earth to its former splendor. Many prophesies point to a time when the Creator will turn his attention to restoring our home to its original beauty.

I will end with this note of an encouraging nature. Here is how we know earth will be restored. First, earth was created and humans placed in a specially prepared place on it. (Genesis account)
(2) Ecclesiastes 1:4 mentions that earth will always be here. (3) Isaiah 55:11 says that everything God sets out to do always comes to completion. No one will stand in His way. ( Much of the bible reveals why were not in paradise now, why there is a large gap between Paradise then and the near future restoration of it.) (4) Psalms 37:29 says the righteous will reside forever on the earth.
Isaiah 65 tells of a future where all on earth will be cared for including sufficient housing, food, and any other necessities provided. The Creator will worry about population control and the use of earth’s resources. (5) Isaiah 45:18 tells plainly that God did not create the earth for nothing (i.e. to be mishandled by its inhabitants and then destroyed) and that it was formed to be inhabited.

Notice that these are scriptures that are taken from the part of the bible that some unfortunately avoid or fail to take seriously. But the fact is these very passages are the ones Jesus would have used, and did directly reefer to during his 3 half year teaching campaign while on earth.

There is hope! But the place to look on an intellectual level is still the wisest, oldest and most available source, God’s word. It is the Creator’s guide for earth’s inhabitants who care.

I would like you to ponder a couple of questions. These question are NOT meant to challenge you, or your belief. The challenge is for you to tell me what steps you would take to right the wrong if you were put in charge of the world today.

One of the main issues for the continuous stripping of the natural wealth is the massive population this planet is still supporting – and it keeps growing!

Are you ready to give up all the things you have gained in life? Luxuries like phones, computers, even solar power panels all create pollution of some type. Are you ready to find a cave and hunt for berries to survive? How much of your cushy reality are you willing to change as a beacon to those that would follow in your footsteps.

Remember, “It is harder for a wealthy person to enter Heaven than passing a camel through the eye of a needle.”

I do see you have provided a heart-felt super-suggestion. That has not been lost. I would like to see it done. What will be the ultimate cost? what types of ultimate and unpopular decisions would need to be made to see it through?

It is evident that mankind over all, has not appretiated its prefect home. Though individually here and there, some have shown a caring attitude, and that may bode well for them.

Now to consider the topic of global warming as being a direct result of all pollution combined with nothing else as the cause, would probably not be accurate. My feeling is that once this whole pollution thing is taken care of, some time down the road, when only accurate information is used, it will probably be found that man did play some part in the changing of weather patterns.

However, one might be drawn to the internal question of ‘when and how will this pollution problem ever end, and thus the eventual reversal of its effects?’ We can be sure that mankind’s beloved governments will never have the power to fix things. Why? Because there will always be greed for money, for power, and the presence of internal corruption. There are simply too many people needed to run man governments to weed out the possibility of corrupting influences. Besides it only takes one bad apple to ruin things. This is a principal we all learn as kids. The second reason not to rely on man governments to solve pollution, is that thousands of years of history recorded for us in various sources, prove through the examination of even obvious patterns, that man governments could never solve big problems because of the same reasons as today.
The conclusion is simple.

Man should quit trying to solve such large problems themselves, and rely fully on the one that caused the existence of all things including intelligent life. Besides, putting trust in governments run by man will prove to be futile seeing as a prophesy in Daniel 2:44 says that the creator will himself personally remove the current governments now in existence and replace it with one that is 100% free of corruption, is completely fair, just, and having the power to permanently reverse the effects of old age and sickness including mans eventuality, death.

The topic took a little turn. This I realize. And if it sounds like there was a slightly religious over tone at the end I understand. But the truth is the truth, whether we choose to except it or not. The fact of the matter is when it comes to religion, it is confounding on purpose. Why? Because, just like anything else there is truth, partial truths, and outright lies. In everything there is truth. So if one cares to put the effort forth to really dig for it, in this case further back in time, and through the examination of the scriptures themselves, one could discover that they have been told a small amount of truth, lots of partial truths, and plenty of full blown lies. By whom? By what is considered and revered as main stream religion. Christianity as a whole claims to base their teaching on the bible. Yet many times ignoring the pure truth it contains. One example that comes to mind is the blatant ignoring of what 1Corinthians 6:9-11 says with regard to a certain moral issue that finds its way in and out of the news.

The important things as far as finding truth about any subject, is to learn to dig for it yourself. Taking the easy path of excepting everything some one tells you at face value can be very dangerous! Many times the only form of truth you may find without digging, is only partial truth. (Strictly speaking this is also untruth.) However, to illustrate an important point, one may think that a glass of water that is only partially poisoned, really has at least some value. ( Thus the thinking that there is value in all religions, despite being tainted with traditions of men.) But when such a glass of water is placed in front of an individual along side one that is known to be free of contamination, the choice is a no-brainer. Right? (Unless a person is either prideful or disagreeable so as to avoid the obvious conclusion, at which point a person fools themselves to no real benefit, thus contributing to the further propagation of harmful half truths and lies.)

Truthfully, this topic also forces a response. No doubt a feeling a frustration may be felt when discussing such a topic with others because the beliefs most people have on religion is a direct result of an ingestion of all the different half truths and outright lies that have been told by so many clergyman through the years.

The point is, if every one were fed the truth as it has been well preserved for us in the bible, (thus one standard), there would be zero confusion and no reason for war! And certainly no greed, which means no pollution.

So dig, think, and reason with an open mind. This is not the same as doing nothing and excepting every thing heard as truth.

We aim to please. Sometimes that means we must bring topics to the table that others really don’t like to handle. Most of my readership are great thinkers. Thus, they tend to understand things a lot more that the political structure would want. As you have noted, the political structure just looks at this as another way to siphon money away from business without having accountability for it.

I appreciate that people living in New Zealand would be exposed to a huge amount of opportunities to see just how well all those “Green” policies work. Maybe you would be so kind to give us a bit of your empirical data and observations so that we have something to base OUR Green Decisions upon. (I think you know where this is leading… Ha ha!) I get a little bothered by the smoke screen from public officials. (Oops, It’s not called ‘smoke’ anymore,… Carbon Trading Credits!… I wonder if I will be able to buy a car with them?… More jokes!)

Time to choose… our orientation…service to self?..or service to other?.. )

Most people don’t know the difference between an environmentalist and a “steward” of the land. The attitude and approach to gain an objective completely different. Since we cannot roll back time by 100 years, Stewardship is definitely the way to go. At least the goals can actually be met.

Thanks,
Shannon